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Re: TA Forex Trading
« Reply #1185 on: March 23, 2017, 08:49:44 am »
Yep the market got quiet. And since the EG chart I'm looking at is a 4 hour chart, it could be next week before it pops.

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« Reply #1186 on: March 23, 2017, 01:18:49 pm »
Pennies since you pointed out the H and SH patterns on EG -got me looking at other 4 hour charts that i could have caught some pips spotting the TDI pattern

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« Reply #1187 on: March 23, 2017, 01:19:39 pm »
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« Reply #1188 on: March 23, 2017, 01:20:18 pm »
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« Reply #1189 on: March 23, 2017, 02:12:04 pm »
Yep they show up a lot Jav...I've seen em on all time frames at one time or another.

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« Reply #1190 on: March 23, 2017, 07:30:46 pm »
well i'll start paying more attention now-Thanks pennies for the heads up-will be easier on me than counting the waves

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« Reply #1191 on: March 23, 2017, 07:47:22 pm »
The EG TDI IHS pattern is no longer valid. It appears to be in a larger TDI wave 4 retrace on the 4 hour chart so it's all still good for topside later. Just have to wait a bit.

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« Reply #1192 on: March 24, 2017, 04:23:57 pm »
Week 12 Wrap up:

Start: $158.70
Goal: $163.83
Attained: $158.95

Well…it was a green week. I gained $0.25. For a whopping 0.0016%

I had 2 nice gains on an ACAD short and an EN long, but gave it all back through some very poor handling of a GU short I shouldn’t have entered in the first place.

What I did poorly: Entering GU short without a plan and not bailing when I had the chance to get out without a loss (any of the three times I had the chance). Now I am sitting on a position larger than I’d like deeper red than I’d like waiting to be rescued by events outside my control.

What I did well: Not much. I closed ACAD and EN both when I had a nice gain and thought it would go against me, that’s smart locking in the gains, but both went quite a bit further after I exited and I would have done better sticking with the original plan. That so often is the case—the plan I go in with plays out and any changes I make on the fly cost me. Not always, but more often than not.

I was due for a bad week and if this is it, I should count myself lucky, but I wasn’t disciplined.

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« Reply #1193 on: March 24, 2017, 08:11:12 pm »
Week 13 Post

Start: $158.95
Goal: $164.34

Looking at this week’s charts:

GU: I’m already bogged down in GU and hope my reading is not too affected by my desire to win in the end, but I see a bearish engulfing candle on the daily chart and a bearish 1HR as well (4HR has no direction). Looking at the pattern, I expect a drop to about 1.22.

The Article 50 trigger is expected at the end of the week and I expect a GU short squeeze in the weeks after the announcement so the drop will probably be before or in the moments after—that is, this week. Ideally, I will be out before the announcement. Then reenter long sometime after.

EURNZD: The other pair I’m watching is EURNZD. I am not in this one at the moment so hope to be thinking more clearly. I see some downward pressure in the 4HR but the daily is turning up and it may be readying the next move north after a couple-week pause to recharge its batteries.

I have a long sitting at 1.5240 and will keep an eye on it for signs the pullback is done.

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« Reply #1194 on: March 24, 2017, 08:21:07 pm »
And it was another stellar week for me too kermit with yet another 2% gains.    I entered Acad with pennies at the 76.8 fib and then added one position 50 pips above.     Then waited patiently to add again and did so at a near perfect point this week just 15 pips before price reversed to end the week 120 odd pips above last weeks close; but I took profits way too soon on it and so I sit with small gains and a little to show for my time as usual.   

It's hard for me to see Acad really turning over but I'm holding my two early entries in hopes of not having to wait a few more weeks before it does finally pull back.     If it does turn around, I will be fighting the urge to TP asap just to lock in the gains.    Gotta learn to have patience on both sides of the trade.

Stellar was a sarcastic adjective to describe my gains btw.     
« Last Edit: March 24, 2017, 08:34:02 pm by quanticopious15 »

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« Reply #1195 on: March 25, 2017, 07:11:22 am »
Good morning Qui. If 2% is your goal and you hit it, then that's a good week. It's hard not to mourn what might have been, but, for me at least, learning to measure success by my goal rather than by "not leaving pips on the table" is important. In Forex, there are nearly unlimited pips on the table and you will always, no matter what, leave most of them there. Trying to grab them all leads to disaster.

Another thing I see in your post that I struggle with too is letting profits ride. I let losses ride all the time, but the emotions play out differently with gains. The advice is don't give back gains, all green is good, etc., and that's true, but leaving too soon is frustrating. For me, the biggest risk for an early exit is getting in too early. When I'm stuck red for a while (and especially when very red), as soon as it goes green, I breathe a sigh of relief, take the money and run. So I try not to get in early. I manage the gains better if my thinking isn't already poisoned by stress over an extended period of loss.

Anyway, congratulations on the 2%. Now let's go do it again!


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« Reply #1196 on: March 25, 2017, 03:07:01 pm »
Actually kermit, my desire is 10% but my goal is anything 2% or above.    I just find anything less than 2% so demoralizing that I don't want to trade forex at all if that's the case for weekly averages.     Even 2% comes really close to making me want to call it quits.    But it would get me well ahead if I live another ten years.     Ten percent gains will put me where I want to be in less than half a decade obviously, and I might even live long enough to spend some of it if that were the case.   

But, for me to make the 10% average weekly gains I would have to take out original entry trade of 10% risk vice my current 2% risk and then add at even higher risk amounts along the way.     In doing so, a 500 pip or greater move against me in a single day, or a two week period, or whatever period when I'm on the wrong side of the trade would totally blow my account.   

We are always early in our trades here, and now that we are trading off the TDI wave count consideration, then as with any trade indicator or method, price is going where it's going until it reverses but hopefully we at least have rightly identified the 4th wave so we can begin a much safer long wave 5 position direction to trade with.    I'm not able to nail down a definitive 4th wave, much less where it's going to end for sure though, so I can never get comfortable with whatever position direction pennies is convinced of.   

Ten percent is scary risk for me when I see days where price has gone for weeks without enough pullback along the way to reduce risk, much less get back to break even.    Acad spent weeks gapping up one week after another in feb 1993 through jan 1995.    That's two years of mostly weekly gap ups.    And, that was over 20,000 pips.    If I'm not on the right side of that weekly trade while expecting but never seeing pullback at the 38.6 or 50. or 71.6 or 78.6 weekly fib levels, or if I didn't play it right on any intraweek pullbacks that might have reduced losses or more unlikely brought me back to even, then account is blown and if I opened a new account and traded the same short trade thinking that Acad had to reverse, I'd still be in deep doo doo if I didn't trade it right.    It's those 800 to 100 pip daily moves too that keep me too nervous to get comfortable with risk more than 2% on early entries.     If I had absolute trust in the TDI wave counting, then there might be opportunity where price reverses in the direction I am trading but I'm looking at the TDI indicator for the weekly Acad chart  and I see  nothing definitive there, any more than I get any solid, or more importantly, absolute reversal triggers.   

It's one fib or its another before price reverses.     It's one TDI wave or its another before the longer price action wave reversal occurs and proves out the most recent TDI wave.    All the other waves were just incidental.     It's either 5 waves, or it's 6 or 7 waves that the "experts" can supposedly divide up into smaller precise waves that supposedly nail down the 5 true waves through other questionable 5 to 7 waves along with the a,b,c and a,b,c,d,e waves.    Putting as many odds in your favor as possible isn't a good reason for assumption of trend reversal for me.    So I assume I'm wrong and plan to add, and leave room for massive price action against me while still surviving before price eventually makes its way back to break even and hopefully profit for me.     
   
And you are right.   Emotions are different when holding a profitable running trade.    If you don't take the money and run, then you risk giving up all your gains and incurring losses if you have the mindset to set stop loss triggers.    If you do take the money, then you risk missing out on far greater gains.    It's tough emotionally either way, but for me it's more demoralizing to not lock in the required 2% minimum gains I need.    So.....at times, I will go ahead and take profit then reenter immediately and let it go against me as it will with expectation of adding later or watching as price continues to move in my favor allowing me my weekly gains, plus some possibly.   But I refuse to lock in losses.   My mindset is that the only time I will close out a position for a loss is when I close my account to cash out and in doing so close out a losing trade in event I didn't have time to wait it out to profit.    The only other time I will do it is in the event I can return my open trades to break even through taking profits on my added double down or triple down positions while closing out at a loss my original positions ONLY at the point where I've already made my 2% or greater for the week.     Then I can still claim gains and yet rid myself of the risk of blowing my account.     

Nuff of those ramblings.   I hope we both get our 10% or better next week but I have a feeling I'll be scratching for my 2% as per usual.     :(
« Last Edit: March 25, 2017, 03:09:49 pm by quanticopious15 »

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« Reply #1197 on: March 25, 2017, 11:24:38 pm »
Actually kermit, my desire is 10% but my goal is anything 2% or above.    I just find anything less than 2% so demoralizing that I don't want to trade forex at all if that's the case for weekly averages.     Even 2% comes really close to making me want to call it quits.    But it would get me well ahead if I live another ten years.     Ten percent gains will put me where I want to be in less than half a decade obviously, and I might even live long enough to spend some of it if that were the case.   

But, for me to make the 10% average weekly gains I would have to take out original entry trade of 10% risk vice my current 2% risk and then add at even higher risk amounts along the way.     In doing so, a 500 pip or greater move against me in a single day, or a two week period, or whatever period when I'm on the wrong side of the trade would totally blow my account.   

We are always early in our trades here, and now that we are trading off the TDI wave count consideration, then as with any trade indicator or method, price is going where it's going until it reverses but hopefully we at least have rightly identified the 4th wave so we can begin a much safer long wave 5 position direction to trade with.    I'm not able to nail down a definitive 4th wave, much less where it's going to end for sure though, so I can never get comfortable with whatever position direction pennies is convinced of.   

Ten percent is scary risk for me when I see days where price has gone for weeks without enough pullback along the way to reduce risk, much less get back to break even.    Acad spent weeks gapping up one week after another in feb 1993 through jan 1995.    That's two years of mostly weekly gap ups.    And, that was over 20,000 pips.    If I'm not on the right side of that weekly trade while expecting but never seeing pullback at the 38.6 or 50. or 71.6 or 78.6 weekly fib levels, or if I didn't play it right on any intraweek pullbacks that might have reduced losses or more unlikely brought me back to even, then account is blown and if I opened a new account and traded the same short trade thinking that Acad had to reverse, I'd still be in deep doo doo if I didn't trade it right.    It's those 800 to 100 pip daily moves too that keep me too nervous to get comfortable with risk more than 2% on early entries.     If I had absolute trust in the TDI wave counting, then there might be opportunity where price reverses in the direction I am trading but I'm looking at the TDI indicator for the weekly Acad chart  and I see  nothing definitive there, any more than I get any solid, or more importantly, absolute reversal triggers.   

It's one fib or its another before price reverses.     It's one TDI wave or its another before the longer price action wave reversal occurs and proves out the most recent TDI wave.    All the other waves were just incidental.     It's either 5 waves, or it's 6 or 7 waves that the "experts" can supposedly divide up into smaller precise waves that supposedly nail down the 5 true waves through other questionable 5 to 7 waves along with the a,b,c and a,b,c,d,e waves.    Putting as many odds in your favor as possible isn't a good reason for assumption of trend reversal for me.    So I assume I'm wrong and plan to add, and leave room for massive price action against me while still surviving before price eventually makes its way back to break even and hopefully profit for me.     
   
And you are right.   Emotions are different when holding a profitable running trade.    If you don't take the money and run, then you risk giving up all your gains and incurring losses if you have the mindset to set stop loss triggers.    If you do take the money, then you risk missing out on far greater gains.    It's tough emotionally either way, but for me it's more demoralizing to not lock in the required 2% minimum gains I need.    So.....at times, I will go ahead and take profit then reenter immediately and let it go against me as it will with expectation of adding later or watching as price continues to move in my favor allowing me my weekly gains, plus some possibly.   But I refuse to lock in losses.   My mindset is that the only time I will close out a position for a loss is when I close my account to cash out and in doing so close out a losing trade in event I didn't have time to wait it out to profit.    The only other time I will do it is in the event I can return my open trades to break even through taking profits on my added double down or triple down positions while closing out at a loss my original positions ONLY at the point where I've already made my 2% or greater for the week.     Then I can still claim gains and yet rid myself of the risk of blowing my account.     

Nuff of those ramblings.   I hope we both get our 10% or better next week but I have a feeling I'll be scratching for my 2% as per usual.     :(

Sounds like you try to use Elliot wave but don't trust it at all lol.

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« Reply #1198 on: March 26, 2017, 12:07:01 am »
ok Guys -Gals whoever watch this guy-these two videos are really good



in the morning i will put up a couple of charts i'm looking at via his info

OK i'll put up the AUD/CAD chart via my understanding of what he WAITS for--THE VALUE AREA-which it seems to be there

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« Reply #1199 on: March 26, 2017, 05:03:06 am »
Hi Qui, that's a lot to chew on. Are you having fun? Because if it's not fun, life's too short.

Personally, I love this stuff. I see charts as a coded message, a logic puzzle I want to solve. The pips are how I keep score. Through years of losing, I wanted to get to the point where I could consistently make money, but if the money were all it was about, I would have given up. The program I'm on now has the benefit of getting me rich in a relatively short period of time, but the day to day motivation is developing the trading discipline that I've identified as the last missing puzzle piece. I'm doing it because I want to see if I can.




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