Honestly Heavy, that's why I'm trying to put together an EA that bases the trade on an ema or smoothed ma crossover of another ma, and since there's a lot less false crossovers going from a very fast ema lines over very slow ema lines then two ema lines that are closer in bar length, I'm wanting to use the 6 or so ema fast line and the far slower 400 ema line crossovers to base my trades. Of course there's still periods where both lines will cross over numerous times before the final breakout begins, which is where the larger gains are netted, but it's a matter of the true breakout crossovers beating out the false breakout crossovers in pips and percentages. Still working on the false crossover thing.